Carbon Fiber Wheels Question
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Carbon Fiber Wheels Question
Has anyone put carbon fiber wheels on a RZ500?
Not sure if there are any manufacturers that have a rear hub with cush drive.
There might be a carbon wheel fitting for the RZ500 with cush drive - but I'm using an R6 swingarm - so, I need an R6 carbon wheel with cush drive.
Does anyone have experience using a non-cush drive wheel? Doesn't sound like a good idea, but I'll bet many have done it.
Any help would be appreciated.
Not sure if there are any manufacturers that have a rear hub with cush drive.
There might be a carbon wheel fitting for the RZ500 with cush drive - but I'm using an R6 swingarm - so, I need an R6 carbon wheel with cush drive.
Does anyone have experience using a non-cush drive wheel? Doesn't sound like a good idea, but I'll bet many have done it.
Any help would be appreciated.
From BST's website; http://www.blackstonetek.com
Q: What do BST wheels include?
A: The BST wheels are designed to fit the same way the OEM wheels fit. They are supplied with:
• All internal bearings, spacers and seals pre-installed
• External spacers, where required
• Air valves
• Cush drive (rear conventional swing arm)
• Sprocket carrier (rear conventional swing arm) where required – wheels can be purchased without a sprocket carrier if you wish (for race teams etc.)
• You will need to buy a sprocket that fits the BST sprocket carrier
I'm pretty sure they'll accomodate any request if it's accompanied by the right amount of $.
Q: What do BST wheels include?
A: The BST wheels are designed to fit the same way the OEM wheels fit. They are supplied with:
• All internal bearings, spacers and seals pre-installed
• External spacers, where required
• Air valves
• Cush drive (rear conventional swing arm)
• Sprocket carrier (rear conventional swing arm) where required – wheels can be purchased without a sprocket carrier if you wish (for race teams etc.)
• You will need to buy a sprocket that fits the BST sprocket carrier
I'm pretty sure they'll accomodate any request if it's accompanied by the right amount of $.
This is the reply I got from BST:
Peter,
We have an in depth listing of all of the wheels that BST offers on our website, please visit www.BrocksPerformance.com
We do not offer customization or advise on fitment other than what is listed on our website, we would recommend a custom bike shop for this type of inquiry.
If you have any questions please let us know.
Jeff
This is the reply from Dymag:
Pete,
The CA5 wheels do include the cush drive as well as a rear sprocket (your choice 520,525,530). I can forward photos shortly if you like. CA5 Dymags are built to order with a 3-4 week lead time.The current sale will be winding down shortly so please let me know if there is any additional info you may need.
Thank you,
Skip
Peter,
We have an in depth listing of all of the wheels that BST offers on our website, please visit www.BrocksPerformance.com
We do not offer customization or advise on fitment other than what is listed on our website, we would recommend a custom bike shop for this type of inquiry.
If you have any questions please let us know.
Jeff
This is the reply from Dymag:
Pete,
The CA5 wheels do include the cush drive as well as a rear sprocket (your choice 520,525,530). I can forward photos shortly if you like. CA5 Dymags are built to order with a 3-4 week lead time.The current sale will be winding down shortly so please let me know if there is any additional info you may need.
Thank you,
Skip
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Smoker, I know two people one member here and a lifelong friend both of whom are utilizing carbon wheels all BSTs. One is Samantha here who is building a truly awesome RZ500,Shes the one I traded off the crated RZ motor too after all these years,I got a VFR400 out of it!....super nice people. Her RZ is under construction but almost completed I think?. Last time I visited their garage/mechanic she had a delivery of the wheels on the bench. Not a direct RZ500 fitment its all Custom fitments with a modified JMC rear and R1 anniverary Ohlins forks,and custom triples etc.. My other good friend has two pretty nice 500 Gammas his is a custom GSXR/SRAD conversion,his wifes is a tricked out standard with again a JMC & the usual suspects . I havent ridden his new version of the Gamma but he had the same wheels on his older setup/stock frame ..All I know is it wheelies like mad,actually annoyingly so
... I think its just the trick 570cc..not the wheels. He also had a Turbo Hybusa that ran the same basic wheels,I know they ALL use cush drives and were bolt on,Hes using Suzuki GSXR fitments for the Gammas,the Honda was a direct bolt up.
I have had a chance to ride his CBR1000R long enough in both forms stock and after the carbon wheels..I can tell you first hand there truly unbelivable things,I cannot belive the differance they make..to me it feels like a TZ250,I know thats a stretch..but in reality its not too far off,there amazing. Actually I dont think a TZ can hang with this bike ...its that good . The CBR is a incedible engineering marvel as far as handling, power and weight,this particular machine has about Im guesing has $25,000 dollars thrown at it not including the bike
Full Ohlins "factory WSBK spec" superbike suspension F & R,the BSTs,Carbon,Ti,data logging,custom Akropovic Ti exhuast & 200 h.p motor thats as docile as a stock bike ..until you nail it. Its Absurdly Far beyond my abilities. But I can say that first hand ....the wheels do make ,very,very,noticable improvementI did feel and he affirmed that they do give more feel/and feedback..that is great on the racetrack...but can be a issue on the roads of Calif. As you know California roads are quickly becoming some of the worst in the country,Its something you should consider once you weight in on the where and how your going to ride. Again my comments are based all on the CBR1000RR. Ive ridden the Gammas,but not with and without the carbon wheels where I could make a qualified judgement. & its been FAR too long since I had my Gamma,my Marvics were light for 1988! but in comparison to the BSTs...its no contest. They work like magic on the CBR,There gotta doing the same thing on his other toys. His old Flame throwing Turbo Hybusa had them...but again no real seat time other than a impressive 190mph blast on the 10 frwy by Desert Center and frankley Its still quite heavy and I was too scared to even attempt a turn. Samantha I know had hers shipped from France,her and her husband work alot in France & Germany ,My friend,Im not sure? he has alot of contacts,pretty sure they get deep discounts but,still quite expensive. but you know that already.
I can truthfully say....On the "right bike"...Id do it if I could, I cant so I wont.
Im sure there must be someone here whom has utilized them on either a Gamma or a RZ,Im sure they will chime in with their opinions and feedback
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I have had a chance to ride his CBR1000R long enough in both forms stock and after the carbon wheels..I can tell you first hand there truly unbelivable things,I cannot belive the differance they make..to me it feels like a TZ250,I know thats a stretch..but in reality its not too far off,there amazing. Actually I dont think a TZ can hang with this bike ...its that good . The CBR is a incedible engineering marvel as far as handling, power and weight,this particular machine has about Im guesing has $25,000 dollars thrown at it not including the bike
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I can truthfully say....On the "right bike"...Id do it if I could, I cant so I wont.
Im sure there must be someone here whom has utilized them on either a Gamma or a RZ,Im sure they will chime in with their opinions and feedback
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The Dymag CF wheels are on sale now for $2,995 USD. Retail price is $3,885 USD and include a sprocket.
![Image](http://www.orientexpress.com/images/Product/large/17104.jpg)
The BST CF wheels are $3,440 USD (not sure if that's the best price). Retail price is $3,995, no sprocket.
![Image](http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/1829/1829445-2.jpg)
Been searching and reading about both wheels. It seems that a lot more people prefer the BST wheels over the Dymags, although the Dymags have the rep for being a stronger wheel. The BSTs are lighter, and most people claim the BSTs look better overall.
I would like to stay loyal to Dymag, because they've done right by me in the past - but I also have to think about resale - just in case. The BSTs would be easier to sell.
![Image](http://www.orientexpress.com/images/Product/large/17104.jpg)
The BST CF wheels are $3,440 USD (not sure if that's the best price). Retail price is $3,995, no sprocket.
![Image](http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/1829/1829445-2.jpg)
Been searching and reading about both wheels. It seems that a lot more people prefer the BST wheels over the Dymags, although the Dymags have the rep for being a stronger wheel. The BSTs are lighter, and most people claim the BSTs look better overall.
I would like to stay loyal to Dymag, because they've done right by me in the past - but I also have to think about resale - just in case. The BSTs would be easier to sell.
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Dymag has returned from the dead last year from oblivion,new investors owners it was good to see them back in biz.
Either wheel looks pretty good,the thicker spokes might fit the era of a stock based RZ500 pretty darned good,I dont think youd go wrong with them. My personal favorite is the BSTs I prefer the look of the smaller spokes.
Im just not sure if Id do the expense of carbon rims on a stockish RZ500,as the handling leaves alot to be desired from the getgo,Im still kinda a gold or white wheel person...but black does seem to fit most anything quite well. You have anodized gold already on your 350,if I remember right so may as well do it, its as good as excuse as any![:smt102](./images/smilies/102.gif)
Either wheel looks pretty good,the thicker spokes might fit the era of a stock based RZ500 pretty darned good,I dont think youd go wrong with them. My personal favorite is the BSTs I prefer the look of the smaller spokes.
Im just not sure if Id do the expense of carbon rims on a stockish RZ500,as the handling leaves alot to be desired from the getgo,Im still kinda a gold or white wheel person...but black does seem to fit most anything quite well. You have anodized gold already on your 350,if I remember right so may as well do it, its as good as excuse as any
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Already have a set on an RZ500 (see photos)
Done aready have them, just go to figure out how to insert a photo in the Owners group.
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RGVSteve Fit them to my bike
The only thing I can tell you is that my bike will only be used for short runs on roads I am familiar with as I am not willing to risk hitting a hole or bump in the road with these wheels. They do look cool as hell. My bike has the R6 swingarm conversion, modified tail section and one-off bodywork with the YPVS mounted in the head stay. I'm not sure what they would look like with the stock bodywork.