Whymee's #1 & #2 Restore

[RuZty]

What oil are you using? Premix or injector?

Right now both.

On the same bike at the same time? If so remember adding oil to the gas displaces fuel and effectively leans the mixture. Depending on how you are jetted, how much you premixed and environmental conditions it is worth being aware of. If you already considered this, carry on.
Forum member OffRoad had a positive seat cover with Sargent seats, http://www.sargentcycle.com/ , I recall thinking that I would use them based on his experience.

[Whymee]

What oil are you using? Premix or injector?

Right now both.

On the same bike at the same time?

I should have posted more than a three word sentence.

Right now both, is correct AT THIS TIME. I have gone through 2 heat cycles on the lift, at or slightly above idle. 32/1 Yamalube 2S premix and 2S going thru the pump. One line is filled but the other is not. At the time that both lines are filled I will remove the premix & feed her 25% VP110 & 75% non-ethanol 90 octane gas for the first tank then 90 non ethanol thereafter. Although I still might mix in some VP just for shits & giggles.

Stock airbox w UNI filter , stock needles. 20 pilot and 250 main, up from stock 230.

[kobra]

Interested how that works out for ya since I plan to run the same setup almost exactly!

I'm sure you're well aware but I stumbled on this today: http://blog.wiseco.com/proper-engine-br ... -a-rebuild

[Whymee]

Interested how that works out for ya since I plan to run the same setup almost exactly!

I'm sure you're well aware but I stumbled on this today: http://blog.wiseco.com/proper-engine-br ... -a-rebuild

Kobra,

If you ask 10 people how you break in a new, or newly rebuilt engine, you would get 9 different answers. "Tis the nature of the beast. Lets not even consider the dry vs wet cylinder/piston debate.

Most knowledgeable motorcycle owners, shadetree mechanics & tinkerers have their own way of breaking in a new machine. Back when I was MXing full time, I broke them in during practice just before the race. Never, NEVER had an issue with longevity. Now that I know a little more than I did back then, and especially with street bikes, obviously I do not break in on a track. Couple heat cycles, couple short rides and then ride it like you stole it. Yes this is a cliff notes version of what I do, it certainly more involved than that.

I guess the cliff notes version of this post is that break in is a very sacrilegious experience, and peeps break in as they see fit, either by choice or because of lack of knowledge.

Good luck in your break in when it becomes that time!

[kobra]

Interested how that works out for ya since I plan to run the same setup almost exactly!

I'm sure you're well aware but I stumbled on this today: http://blog.wiseco.com/proper-engine-br ... -a-rebuild

Kobra,

If you ask 10 people how you break in a new, or newly rebuilt engine, you would get 9 different answers. "Tis the nature of the beast. Lets not even consider the dry vs wet cylinder/piston debate.

Most knowledgeable motorcycle owners, shadetree mechanics & tinkerers have their own way of breaking in a new machine. Back when I was MXing full time, I broke them in during practice just before the race. Never, NEVER had an issue with longevity. Now that I know a little more than I did back then, and especially with street bikes, obviously I do not break in on a track. Couple heat cycles, couple short rides and then ride it like you stole it. Yes this is a cliff notes version of what I do, it certainly more involved than that.

I guess the cliff notes version of this post is that break in is a very sacrilegious experience, and peeps break in as they see fit, either by choice or because of lack of knowledge.

Good luck in your break in when it becomes that time!

I have to agree on all points. Growing up when I rebuilt an engine or got a new bike, I just rode the darn thing. No heat cycles, no special throttle blipping, nothing. I was gentle for the first few hours then just rode the piss out of it. Never a problem.

[JonW]

Yamaha's break in was something like under 5000 for 500miles, then every 100 miles add a 1000 revs and dont labour the engine. I remember doing this when brand new, it was no fun.

[Whymee]

So I have been waiting on a rear fender for several weeks now. I also remember back in the day I cut off the lower portion of said fender to "make it look better". I surely did not want to do that to a new fender so I went looking for options. I decided to make a fill in panel that the fender filled in between the frame rails under the seat, where the tool trey resided.

This is what I came up with:



The grommet is for the turn signal wires not present at this time.

Cancelled my 2 rear fender order from the dealer.

[Whymee]

Been waiting on a couple knock-off rear turn signals for bike #2 to complete my electrical system. They came in, but were 3 wire & has an 1157 bulb. Stock assemblies up front. Installed all but the flasher would not flash. I tried 4 stock flashers. Nada.

So I made the trek into town & picked up a 3 pronged flasher. Would not even light the bulbs. Perfect...

Finally consulted the wiring diagram, and my problem was the harness prong designation (stock pinout), did not match what I had bought. Went back to the store and realized that no flashers they had matched the pinout that I needed. Perfect...

Kept the flashers that I had bought previously & headed back home. Decided to make jumpers and now the signals blink with the new electronic flasher I bought.

But I could not leave well enough alone. I wanted the stock system to flash.

Went over to bike #1, wired in some old Honda assemblies I had on hand & they flashed. With all 4 stock flashers too! I thought WTF...

So I went to bike 2, installed the stock flasher and still no flash. Wired in the Honda signal assemblies in the rear, in place of the knock off's & yes, the system flashed! But would not flash with the stockers up front & the knock offs in the rear.

Started checking wattage of bulbs. Stock fronts: 27W. Knock offs, 8w. There is my problem, I thought, I will just wire both positives together (3 wire 1157 bulb) to get my wattage that the stock flasher needed. No flash. Fawk...

So now I have spent the better part of two days trying to get my stock system to flash. Heading back into town to get real 1157 bulbs, 27 watts. Will finish this shit show when I get back.

[Whymee]

And the SOB still will not flash. I feel my intelligence is being put to the test, when it should not be.

[brrrappp]

I went through that last fall. You might try using the stock flasher and get the right bulbs. You are no doubt aware the socket for the 1157 and 1156 is not compatible, I gutted the sockets from my original flashers and put them into the new flashers that came with 3-wire sockets. The flasher only works with the correct wattage bulbs. 12v 27watt I think it's #1156 bulb.
Any higher wattage and they don't flash too much resistance.


I also found some two wire T.S. from a vendor in Germany. They are nearly identical except the lens doesn't have the DOT stamp that USA models require. Stock Yamaha lens fits.

[Whymee]

I have to admit, I gave in. This makes no sense to me.

The stock system will flash at 27x2 watts. This is with i believe single filament 1156 bulbs. I put a 8w/26.5 1157 in the knock off assemblies and they will not flash with either filament. Got me stumped. So much so I am moving on to greener pastures.

I did have a first TINY ride on #2. 'Bout a half mile. Although not without drama...

First attempt did not make it out of the driveway. My speedo was squealing like a stuck pig. Bu the time I had that under control, it started raining. I tried it again in the afternoon and all went well. Just ran it through the gears & tooted the horn. Probably the next time I ride it will be in Daytona during bike week.

Now it is time to get cranking on #1. Really waiting on parts to come in so I can make headway.

I search Ebay every day looking for goodies. I seen a ignition sidecase NOS for a hundred bucks. I almost bought it. Looking back, I should have. I struggle with buying "good deals" on the 'bay constantly. Like today. A instrument assembly which I though was a good deal. I do not need it now, but I might later, like the sidecase. I passed. I will probably regret it later at some point.

Sometimes you have to hold back the reigns on the pocketbook. Or do you? Hehe

[brrrappp]

I hear you on the ebay parts thing. It's like having another monthly payment if you want to collect hard to find parts for the future.
I over-bought a few OEM parts last fall but am noticing some of the stuff is now listed as NLA. So that makes me feel a bit better about having the stuff collecting dust in the garage.

This was the guy that had the two wire turn signals. They are out of stock but he may or may not be able to get some more. I emailed Emgo directly and they replied saying NLA.

https://www.ebay.com/p/4x-Winker-Indica ... 1972461391

[Whymee]

I hear you on the ebay parts thing. It's like having another monthly payment if you want to collect hard to find parts for the future.
I over-bought a few OEM parts last fall but am noticing some of the stuff is now listed as NLA. So that makes me feel a bit better about having the stuff collecting dust in the garage.

This was the guy that had the two wire turn signals. They are out of stock but he may or may not be able to get some more. I emailed Emgo directly and they replied saying NLA.

https://www.ebay.com/p/4x-Winker-Indica ... 1972461391

Thanks for the tip!

[Whymee]

#2 RZ got some seat loving. New foam & a cover from HVC.



Fit & finish is nice. The cover is made of a pretty thin material. TBH most seats I have covered have been dirt bike related. Still, this cover is thin.

Pretty much done with this bike, until some stock bling comes in.

[brrrappp]

That seat cover looks pretty nice compared to some I've seen. The texture looks original.