Operation: RZ350N REVIVAL - Florida 1985 48H Project

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Re: Operation: RZ350N REVIVAL - Florida 1985 48H Project

#331 Post by TwoStrokeNut » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:31 pm

Service C24 – Clean up Reflectors...

I hope everyone is doing okay with this darn COVID-19 stuff going around. My company has me working from home, and what I found is I now have 10 extra hours of free time available that I would normally be using to commute to work each week. Also, since people are being asked to stay home, there really isn’t much going on in the community. So there’s plenty of time to spend with the family AND catch up on projects!

This is a small little detail, but one that bugged me as much as some other things on this bike. I’m not sure how black paint overspray could have gotten on the front reflectors because the radiator shroud is black plastic, but who knows.

A little bit of paint remover fixed it right up. I also polished the amber plastic it a bit to make it pop more.

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Since I’m on the reflector subject, I was looking at the others and discovered the rear reflector bracket was still there on the rear fender. Obviously, someone didn’t like the way it looked and took quick measures to remedy it. So now I need to decide whether I just leave it as is, or buy a reflector and bend the bracket back down in the name of OEM originality. This bike is far from 100% original, so I’m leaning heavily towards leaving well enough alone. I can still relish in the fact that the bracket is there, even though no one sees it!

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C24 Total Cost: US$0.00 (Paint remover and polish from inventory)
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Re: Operation: RZ350N REVIVAL - Florida 1985 48H Project

#332 Post by brrrappp » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:01 pm

It's hard to get that long rear reflector bracket and everyone seems to cut it off. The reflector is easy to replace. Bicycles and trailers use that round red reflector and I think Yamaha still has them. The red side reflector brackets are really hard to get. I don't think those were on non-usa bikes. I've been trying to hack together brackets that look stock for one of my RZ's

As for the black paint on the radiator shroud - do you think someone spray painted the shroud to cover the graying plastic or maybe they sprayed the radiator to cover dings?

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Re: Operation: RZ350N REVIVAL - Florida 1985 48H Project

#333 Post by TwoStrokeNut » Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:01 pm

Well, if the rear bracket is somewhat hard to find, I'm glad mine is still back there... even if it IS mangled. LOL

You are probably right about the black paint on the shroud. I will need to look closer next time I am out in the shop. The pictures above sort of hint at it being painted. At least it was a decent job, if it was painted... still not peeling off!
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Re: Operation: RZ350N REVIVAL - Florida 1985 48H Project

#334 Post by TwoStrokeNut » Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:07 pm

Service C20 – Recover extra seat pan...

I figured in light of this pandemic, I better give you guys something to read. So this is going to be a loooooooong post. LOL

The original seat that came with the bike wasn’t ripped, but the vinyl was hard and slick and I had always wanted too try my hand at reupholstering a cycle seat pan. So as time went on, I purchased an extra seat at a swap meet. I can’t remember the exact price paid, but it was in the vicinity of $25. Not long after, I also purchased a seat cover off of ebay for what I remember to be $37. And then they both sat for maybe 15 years, until now.

This is the extra seat and cover next to my original seat.

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Although the vinyl is hard as a rock and there is a tear at one of the seams, the foam seemed to be in good shape so it was a perfect candidate for a recover.

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I hadn’t noticed this detail before, but the RZ seat is set up for a passenger strap with holes in the plastic pan and threaded holes in the steel mounts. Not sure if I ever saw one with a strap installed. No matter, I wouldn’t install one even if it was OEM… couldn’t bear to put a hole in the cover!

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Here’s what I found with the cover removed. The foam was in pretty good shape.

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I had a manual and power stapler at my disposal and tried both on the pan. The electric drove the staple in just slightly better so I used that, but I think with care,either would suffice. With the electric, I think it’s easier to keep the vinyl positioned right where you want it before pulling the trigger. The manual guns tend to move around a bit as you are pressing the handle. The gun face had to be pressed firmly against the vinyl and pan if you ever hope to drive it in. Any gap at all and the staples just deform and don’t penetrate. Even taking care to hold firmly, I bet a third of the staples had to be pulled out and redone.

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I used these stainless staples for corrosion resistance. I needed them for another job so the timing was perfect. The original staples were rusting, but still performing their function, so I don’t think stainless is absolutely necessary.

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When putting the cover on, I decided which way the excess seam material was going to lay underneath (I chose down to the sides to keep the top surface free of any potential bumps). In an effort to minimize these bumps about a 1/4” from the stitched seam, I trimmed the edge of one flap down a hair to be a slightly different length then the other so the excess material would “feather out” better. I’m not sure if I’m explaining this well enough, but I think it helped.

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The cover had little notches at end to help the seamstress line the pieces up and I used them to my advantage. I marked the foam with matching centerlines to help get the cover centered.

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It took me forever to drive that first staple in… I must have test fitted the cover 20 times to be sure I had it where it needed to be. I started by stapling on the rear, then the front, to get the seams exactly at the corners of the seat foam. I then worked my way from rear to front, one staple on the left, the next on the right. The drivers section was particularly difficult because it had to be pulled so hard to draw it down to the foam in that dish, but I eventually got it. Here are the results.

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During the test fitting, I NEVER thought the cover was going to come out looking good, but I’m happy with the results. I will drive a few more staples in after test fitting on the bike.

Here’s a better view of the seam bumps I was trying to describe above. Red dashes indicate location.

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Here’s an even better (or worse?) example of the bump. I had intended for this flap to go forward against the tank where you wouldn’t see it, so I took out a few staples and reached in there to flip the flap over.

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And finally, here are some pictures of the finished seat on the bike.

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C20 Total Cost: US$65.00 (Extra seat, seat cover, and SS staples)
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Re: Operation: RZ350N REVIVAL - Florida 1985 48H Project

#335 Post by LC Cnd » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:48 pm

Looks pretty good to me. Good job on the stapling; appears to be the most difficult but satisfying part. Sitting on it how does it feel? Suspect it feels worth every DYI penny. Congrats and appears to be ride time next!

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#336 Post by brrrappp » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:50 pm

The seat holders are a common part with the EU models and some other bikes that had a passenger strap.
IF you have a solo-seat Cowl, the cowl holding bracket bolts through the seat cover and into that seat hold down.

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#337 Post by kpke » Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:36 am

Nice job (as usual for you) on that seat cover. It looks really nice.

I'll ramble a bit for the same reason.

I had a seat that had the passenger strap on it. It was the only one I had ever seen. It was a junk seat and not sure what happened to it. It may still be around here :smt005 . And yes the fancy solo seat cowl uses those same holes for the brackets. I had one on the 83 using a spare not perfect seat because of poking holes in the seat cover. I have removed it because I really dislike the way those things mount.

The bike below I believe has the same ebay cover on it that you used. I seem to remember paying about that price for it (8-10 years ago). I had a pro install it for next to nothing. He's a MC guy and thought the bike was cool so did not charge much. Toward the left rear is a rub mark from a didn't put the side stand all the way out tip over at a gas station :smt010 That tip over also cracked a perfectly good original wind screen. :smt013

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Re: Operation: RZ350N REVIVAL - Florida 1985 48H Project

#338 Post by JonW » Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:55 pm

Looks good, done lots of seats over the years and use the manual stapler and dont really need stainless staples, but they are firmer and twist less of course.

Cover looks good. The more you do of them the better you get at it :)
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#339 Post by kobra » Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:45 pm

Amazing work on that seat.
My seat is hard and slick also. But I've got a spare seat too! Maybe a future project to recover it...
I wonder if this'll fit. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-RZ350-S ... SwCVtcDkNI

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#340 Post by kpke » Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:39 am

Looks like he uses a stock photo for many seat covers. Contact him via ebay.

Strange description but it should fit your RZ350 ATV. :smt005

"Yamaha RZ350 Seat Cover 1984 To 1985 Standard Black Color ATV Seat Cover"
kobra wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:45 pm Amazing work on that seat.
My seat is hard and slick also. But I've got a spare seat too! Maybe a future project to recover it...
I wonder if this'll fit. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-RZ350-S ... SwCVtcDkNI

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#341 Post by TwoStrokeNut » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:51 am

LC Cnd - Thanks. It feels soooo much better! Yes, worth every penny AND effort, for sure. Wish I wouldn't have waited this long to dive into the project.

brrrappp - Thanks for that insight. I do have a solo cowl, but it is aftermarket and mounts down lower. Actually, there’s really not much that holds it on, come to think of it. More to come on that subject in a future post.

kpke - Thanks! Yours looks nice as well. I could never poke holes into a freshly covered seat to mount the solo cowl. Well let’s just say, it would be extremely difficult. Plus they can tear up other parts of the seat (at least my aftermarket version has). Don’t you hate those bone-head moves… I keep thinking… now that this one is recovered, I will probably drop a tool on it and puncture it.

JonW - Thanks. It will certainly be easier next time to drive that first staple!

kobra - Thanks. If I can do it, you can do it too. I bought my cover so long ago, I’m not sure which ebay store it came from. I remember it was a guy looking for additional old seat covers to pattern his new ones from and he was offering discounts if you had them. Just dive in! I’m so happy that slippery seat is gone! Just be sure the one you buy isn’t meant t fit a Banshee!
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Re: Operation: RZ350N REVIVAL - Florida 1985 48H Project

#342 Post by TwoStrokeNut » Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:04 pm

Service E05 – Clean up LH switchgear...

When I originally added this to the Task List, I thought it was going to be a full repaint job and addition of lettering decals. After seeing how it made it handlebars look on my RZ500, I just assumed I would be doing it here as well. But after looking at them with their complete and vivid lettering, I decided a cleanup was all they needed.

This is what I started with. Dirty, but decent.

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The biggest part of this cleanup was just checking everything out inside and lubing things up.

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To properly clean up the red horn button, it really needs to be taken apart to get at all sides. I took some fine grit sandpaper to it, and wet sanded off the top layer of faded material. The blue tape temporarily held screws in place so I didn’t have to sort that out upon reassembly.

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This particular assembly was purchased on ebay a long time ago. After a good washing of the housing halves, it was seen that they had plenty of tiny little nicked spots on them. Perhaps they rolled around in a bin full of parts for a while to get that way (???).

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Here is the cleaned up part. Not perfect, but better. The gray and red looks reasonably well again, and the lettering is clear. I took a toothbrush to the horn button lettering and white cleaned up fairly well, so I didn’t bother to repaint them.

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Installed:

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E05 Total Cost: US$0.00 (Just time)
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#343 Post by TwoStrokeNut » Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:06 pm

Service E06 – Clean up RH switchgear...

Like the LH side, the RH was originally slated for a full repaint. But I decided to clean it all up and see how it looked. The lettering was all there, so there was a chance it could turn out alright.

Here is the starting point. It still had the integrated PPT button from my 2-way radio installed from 18 years ago. I decided to leave it as a conversation piece. I believe I have the little plastic OEM filler piece that fits in there… I need to locate it. I remember fishing the extra wires up through the harness was a bit of a challenge back then.

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A look inside. I had already released the harness from the lower half in this picture.

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The housing halves cleaned up fairly well, but there was plenty of paint missing on the corners.

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The red kill switch needed attention badly.

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And it got it.

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Here it is all back together. At this point, I decided to touch up the corners with some paint.

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And here are the final results, ready to go back on the bike. Again, not perfect, but better. And that’s what I have normally been shooting for on this bike.

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Installed:

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And overall cockpit view:

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E06 Total Cost: US$0.00 (Nothing needed)
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Re: Operation: RZ350N REVIVAL - Florida 1985 48H Project

#344 Post by nokturnal » Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:37 pm

what did you use on the red(pink) switches?
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#345 Post by TwoStrokeNut » Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:55 pm

nokturnal wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:37 pm what did you use on the red(pink) switches?
I took some fine grit sandpaper to it (600 grit), and wet sanded off the top layer of faded material. Not perfect, but better. The more you sand, the closer it will get to red.
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