All Balls , bearing conv kit question.
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All Balls , bearing conv kit question.
I dont see a parts included list.
When ordering up one of their fork bearing conversion kits, do the kits come as bearings only or are. "new races", dust seals & washers included?
Any info appreciated.
When ordering up one of their fork bearing conversion kits, do the kits come as bearings only or are. "new races", dust seals & washers included?
Any info appreciated.
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96 GSXR SRAD, Future Yoshimura rep.
85 custom Tri-Z
RZ/YZR bike(project)
86 VFR750 RC24 Merkel replica (project)
Royal Enfield Bullet 500
Re: All Balls , bearing conv kit question.
http://www.allballsracing.com/steering/22-1007.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
22-1007 - Tapered bearings and 2 dust seals - that's the part No. for '84 RZ350
22-1007 - Tapered bearings and 2 dust seals - that's the part No. for '84 RZ350
I'd rather ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow.
Re: All Balls , bearing conv kit question.
most dest seals in the kits are crap, reuse the OEM one, its well made.
washers?
washers?
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Re: All Balls , bearing conv kit question.
^ conversion kits guys
is different to the std kit for the 350
is different to the std kit for the 350
Re: All Balls , bearing conv kit question.
They come with the races, seals and sometimes washers. I've bought several
Re: All Balls , bearing conv kit question.
converting what to what then? kits probably differ in what they include... And many front end convs dont need different brgs on the RZ, just a spacer, ie RGV = 5mm etc.
80 XT500 Supermoto!
81 RD350LC Resto
82 RD421LC Hybrid
82 RD350LC decapitation project
82 RD250LC JDM '251LC' YPVS
83 RZ350 Resto
84 RZ500 Resto
85 RZ350 F1 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Hybrid
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81 RD350LC Resto
82 RD421LC Hybrid
82 RD350LC decapitation project
82 RD250LC JDM '251LC' YPVS
83 RZ350 Resto
84 RZ500 Resto
85 RZ350 F1 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Hybrid
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Re: All Balls , bearing conv kit question.
How does one pull off a stuck bottom (pressed on) race?
(stuck on the botom triple clamp).
I'm in the process of developing/doing a front end conversion, from a 1989 GSX750F Katana donor.
(41mm forks, 290mm rotors, 3.0x17 wheels)
Seems to be pretty straight forward..... the allballs conversion kit comes with 2 washers...
2-3mm total.. (just got em, haven't measured anything yet).
No idea about steering stops yet.... nor how to mount the instrument cluster...
Cross bridge when come to it..
I'm just wondering if the races are the same.... the conv kit and stock RZ replacement...
So I can put the stock front end back on to ride it, while I work out all the details....
Here is a link to Allballs "installation-guide" for fork conversions using their conv kits:
http://www.cyclepedia.com/manuals/onlin ... rsion-kit/
(stuck on the botom triple clamp).
I'm in the process of developing/doing a front end conversion, from a 1989 GSX750F Katana donor.
(41mm forks, 290mm rotors, 3.0x17 wheels)
Seems to be pretty straight forward..... the allballs conversion kit comes with 2 washers...
2-3mm total.. (just got em, haven't measured anything yet).
No idea about steering stops yet.... nor how to mount the instrument cluster...
Cross bridge when come to it..
I'm just wondering if the races are the same.... the conv kit and stock RZ replacement...
So I can put the stock front end back on to ride it, while I work out all the details....
Here is a link to Allballs "installation-guide" for fork conversions using their conv kits:
http://www.cyclepedia.com/manuals/onlin ... rsion-kit/
Greg
Re: All Balls , bearing conv kit question.
Take a grinder/cutting disc to the race, very carefully cut it diagonally, but not all the way through.
Smack it with a cold chisel and hammer.
It will either split/shatter or start to turn and wind its way up the stem.
Smack it with a cold chisel and hammer.
It will either split/shatter or start to turn and wind its way up the stem.
I'd rather ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow.
Re: All Balls , bearing conv kit question.
Thanks, thats VERY helpful!
I was wondering about doing that...
I was wondering about doing that...
Greg
Re: All Balls , bearing conv kit question.
There is a puller specifically for that, I think Motion Pro make one, but $$$. Maybe a bike shop could pull it off. I have used splitter type pullers to get under the race and press the stem through, or if steering stops interfere I have also supported the lower triple and pressed the stem through it to get the bearing up far enough to remove, then turned it over and pressed the stem back in. There will be a shoulder or snap ring to locate it at the proper depth. If you start whacking bearings with chisels wear gloves and safety glasses, I have had steel go very deep into my hand doing this. Localized heat on the race will make it come off easier as well, and if it's a hollow stem you could cool the middle.
Re: All Balls , bearing conv kit question.
Saving $$$ was the idea... lol...
Esp for a "one time tool" (ok, maybe 3 times, lifetime..)
Stem is welded... as are some RZ stems...
Maybe I'll break down and try a bike shop.. (if i can find one around here)..
Might even ask at my auto shop.... they might even have the right tool... and be willing.
A few light whacks with hammer and chisel under.... might just reveal if just a few more whacks will do it.
At least if it budges, Im halfway home...
Esp for a "one time tool" (ok, maybe 3 times, lifetime..)
Stem is welded... as are some RZ stems...
Maybe I'll break down and try a bike shop.. (if i can find one around here)..
Might even ask at my auto shop.... they might even have the right tool... and be willing.
A few light whacks with hammer and chisel under.... might just reveal if just a few more whacks will do it.
At least if it budges, Im halfway home...
Greg
Re: All Balls , bearing conv kit question.
If whacking wont work, then you need to do this... dont pay for something you can do yourself.
ghezzi wrote:Take a grinder/cutting disc to the race, very carefully cut it diagonally, but not all the way through.
Smack it with a cold chisel and hammer.
It will either split/shatter or start to turn and wind its way up the stem.
80 XT500 Supermoto!
81 RD350LC Resto
82 RD421LC Hybrid
82 RD350LC decapitation project
82 RD250LC JDM '251LC' YPVS
83 RZ350 Resto
84 RZ500 Resto
85 RZ350 F1 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Hybrid
Like Watches? www.PloProf.com & www.DeskDivers.com
81 RD350LC Resto
82 RD421LC Hybrid
82 RD350LC decapitation project
82 RD250LC JDM '251LC' YPVS
83 RZ350 Resto
84 RZ500 Resto
85 RZ350 F1 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Hybrid
Like Watches? www.PloProf.com & www.DeskDivers.com
Re: All Balls , bearing conv kit question.
Loctite make a product called Freeze and Release that might help with splitting the race once you have cut it, or use it to chill the stem after you have warmed the bearing. You can also invert one of those computer duster cans for a similar short term effect (maybe keep it away from open flame if you are heating at the same time).
Re: All Balls , bearing conv kit question.
Thanks again for the tips...
Gotta think on this a bit..
Gotta think on this a bit..
Greg
Re: All Balls , bearing conv kit question.
Cold chisel under the race. Clean up any damage afterwards with files, if any.
Rory
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1985 RZ350
9 1986-1990 RZ350s
2000 ST2
2005 749
2005 749 with 999 engine
2 1984 RZ350s
1985 RZ350
9 1986-1990 RZ350s
2000 ST2
2005 749
2005 749 with 999 engine