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Re: 251LC

#31 Post by JonW » Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:46 pm

ta m8,

Yeah, they didnt look too bad but sadly the rubbers were all trashed. I think they were aftermarket and not brake fluid or oil safe or something, ie just nitrile rubber. They had all ballooned up and become distended, so while they looked ok they were about 1.5-2x actual size. No biggie as you can get replacements of course.
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Re: 251LC

#32 Post by JonW » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:11 am

As I gradually work through the boxes of junk in my garage once again trying to make up tubs for re-zinc'ing of parts I come across parts for this bike, like the calipers mentioned above. Those were sat on the end of my bench and while the parts had been ordered I just needed to spend the time to do a good clean and then put the parts in. Now that's done Im very happy indeed, parts are off my bench, my to-do list is smaller and I've more parts done for this bike. Win win win...!

Another part that was also taking up space on the end of a bench (with a stack of others) was the front wheel for this bike. Regular readers may recall that I already have a rear 250 LC wheel that had been refurbished for the resto-LC project, but while I was gathering parts for that build a rare-in-aus 350 wheel came up and once purchased I cleaned and polished that up instead, so without knowing it I was half way to having a set for this bike, even though I didn't even have the frame back then, just the idea... :)

After a clean up with car wheel cleaner yesterday, today I set about getting the worst of the gouges out and tidying up the polished area. I gave it a quick hit with some polish as a first run and I have to say that it doesnt look too bad. It will need more work but its great to see progress on a really nasty dirty part. Tomorrow I'll take the wheel to my mate's workshop and run it through his parts washer to try and get some more of the grime off the thing on the spokes and the hub which is really pretty nasty... like all used LC wheels I guess!
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Re: 251LC

#33 Post by JonW » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:28 pm

Ive since painted the front wheel and now it needs a final polish on my balancer and then I'll fit new bearings (I bought some Koyos for that) and I guess its time to look out the disks and sort them ready for fitting as Ive cleaned and zinc'd up the old bolts I had in readiness.

In the meantime Ive been doing some work on brake hoses. A while back Norbo and Legend started selling OEM look brake hoses. Norbo seems to not do these at the moment, but Legend and Yambits do. Ive the Yambits ones on my resto, but I was keen to know more and researched those hoses and compared them to Legend. Full info here: http://rdlccrazy.proboards.com/thread/4 ... -hoses-4l0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ive since bought a set of the Legend hoses as theyre much cheaper than Yambits, even with their VAT free pricing for overseas customers.

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Re: 251LC

#34 Post by hondaror » Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:30 am

Look good.
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Re: 251LC

#35 Post by JonW » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:59 am

Yeah, Im interested to see if i can find out who makes the Legend ones, I assumed all these aftermarkets would be made in one place and just sold through different sellers, but the Legend ones look subtly different to the others so we'll see when they arrive.

So while I reserve judgement, Yambits offers a good deal on an OEM look set if thats the thing youre after. £20 each line VAT free and on orders under £75 they charge £12.99 postage. Made in the UK by a proper brake hose manufacturer no less who supplies the classic car world, with approval and date made info printed on the hose.
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Re: 251LC

#36 Post by hondaror » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:32 am

Steel braided lines are an upgrade that I do to every one of my bikes. It's a no brainer for me. I'm not an OEM hound. I do appreciate the works of the OEM hounds, though. To be admired, for sure.
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Re: 251LC

#37 Post by JonW » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:31 pm

Lots of the new car hoses that look to be simple rubber actually are braided inside, amuses me when guys fit braided hoses and claim and upgrade. :)

For completeness, these bike ones i listed are not tho.

Yes I like braided hoses, but not good for originality as you say.
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Re: 251LC

#38 Post by hondaror » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:03 am

My pet peeve are the guys that do the upgrade to braided, but cheap out and don't do the proper fittings, cutting corners, running 2 lines to the master rather then using a splitter. I go squirrelly when I see that. Lol.
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#39 Post by JonW » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:07 am

Lol many kits come like that, Ive a couple form goodridge and other brands on some of my bikes, dont look! ;)
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Re: 251LC

#40 Post by hondaror » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:16 am

Don't worry, I won't. Ouch.
My bikes are nothing special. I am not worried about concourse looks, just functionality...but why things like that bug me? I have no idea.
If I made my bikes look as nice as your restos, I wouldn't ride them.
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Re: 251LC

#41 Post by JonW » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:22 am

Haha, thats very kind of you Rory. While not all of mine are restos, I still shoot for a 'standard' I guess.

Ive been building up the dash for this bike today, Ive stripped the speedometer and cleaned and lubed it up. The tacho was plainly from another bike. really grubby dial and full of spiders webs. dial is now cleaned and as Im trying to reuse parts in this build Ive actually painted on the red line with what i think is average success. I will repaint the temp needle and build it back up i think, it will be fine.

I did have a new top cover for this dash but will reuse the bottom as its fine, the bracket has been green plated and Im only missing two things:

- the tach wiring - I found a nos set on ebay in France. wow.

- 2 of the rubbers. You cant buy these new now, I'll ask around but i guess my fall back is Yambits who does aftermarket ones, probably from PGM... so shite them. sigh. Anyone in Aus have 2 spares?
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Re: 251LC

#42 Post by LC Cnd » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:45 am

Jon following your build here - nice to hear your going as original as possible as its not an easy feat. The '2 rubbers' are in reference to what exactly? Also, I'm interested to see what kind of petrol cap you are going to use as your a stickler on that issue - when you get to that point I mean.

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Re: 251LC

#43 Post by JonW » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:12 am

Thanks Scott, pleased to know people are enjoying reading what's happening. The rubbers are the ones that hold the clocks to the bracket inside the case, sort of rectangular shaped and slide onto the bracket. There are 4 in the case, 2 for each clock.

These are the clocks as they stand now. The more I look at the pics, the more I need to swap the dial LOL. I annoy myself with my quest for perfection :/ But to be honest I figured Id give painting this one a go, i had the paint and some time. no brainer. The rev counter dial was all white, no red at all when i started. I also dropped over 30k off the speedo, it was not from this bike and in my mind better reflects the milage after the ground up resto etc. I could have lost the 71km, but why bother when you could chance messing up the lower number clickers.

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This was the short rev counter loom I bought NOS, I bet this has been NLA for decades...

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Ive also been busy with a set of OEM footrests and can report on them now that theyre done. For those that may have spoken to me and heard my hassles in the end I decided to carefully drill the new rivets and fit split pins as I couldnt get the rivets to flatten at all in a press or with a big hammer. Plus I dont know if anyone has noticed but the new yam footrests all seem to come wth the rivets upside down, ie peened over part is at the top. I did these the right way round ;)

So lots of plating and a new (NLA) right spring, new rubbers and pins and here we go... Not bad for some rusty and delaminating junk. This was part of my 'restore it or chuck it away' ethos for the spares in my boxes. So while these cost about half what a new set costs and were considerably more work, I have the satisfaction of knowing i saved these from the bin and no longer have them in a spares box. win win win!

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As for the fuel cap... Im not sure yet, I do have the Alloy one from my 421 and I could use that since I now have a Wicked billet alloy cap for that bike.... we'll see.... I also have a locking chrome cap in my spares... lol. watch this space I guess! :)
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82 RD421LC Hybrid
82 RD350LC decapitation project
82 RD250LC JDM '251LC' YPVS
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86 RZ350 F2 Resto
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Re: 251LC

#44 Post by hondaror » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:29 pm

Excellent work Jon, as always. As Scott says, just a joy to follow.

You? A standard? You mean, like brand new. That seems to be your standard. I couldn't do it. I'd be so upset with each scratch, ding, whatever came the bike's way.

It is fun to watch.
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Re: 251LC

#45 Post by JonW » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:06 am

Thanks for the kind words Rory. This bike will get ragged within an inch of its life I reckon, the whole point of this build was not to be too prissy about it when done as its got all the old bits n bobs I had lying around in it, but of course its going to look clean and new when done, but will never be worth serious money as its no numbers matching resto.
80 XT500 Supermoto!
81 RD350LC Resto
82 RD421LC Hybrid
82 RD350LC decapitation project
82 RD250LC JDM '251LC' YPVS
83 RZ350 Resto
84 RZ500 Resto
85 RZ350 F1 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Hybrid

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