Project Husaberg FE 650 !!!
Moderator: rztom
Re: Project Husaberg FE 650 !!!
Concerning the brake caliper people often have that problem and I've seen quite a lot being milled on the back side.
What you can do if the fork is wide enough is to use a spacer on the disc&caliper to get more clearance to the spokes.
The other possibility is special SuperMoto calipers like Spiegler offers. The downside on these: They cost a fortune and often have a limited choice for pad types.
"Shortening" a moto cross fork for SuperMoto purpose is quite easy. If you disassemble the internals, they contain a few bushes that can be changed (longer or shorter) to give you a different static position. Note that you need to shorten the spring bush for the same amount.
I did that on my KTM 360 SX (5 cm lower) to enhance laptimes (you can brake harder before rear starts to loose contact if center of mass is lower).
The shock was send to a service provider who rebuild it and did the shortening.
What you can do if the fork is wide enough is to use a spacer on the disc&caliper to get more clearance to the spokes.
The other possibility is special SuperMoto calipers like Spiegler offers. The downside on these: They cost a fortune and often have a limited choice for pad types.
"Shortening" a moto cross fork for SuperMoto purpose is quite easy. If you disassemble the internals, they contain a few bushes that can be changed (longer or shorter) to give you a different static position. Note that you need to shorten the spring bush for the same amount.
I did that on my KTM 360 SX (5 cm lower) to enhance laptimes (you can brake harder before rear starts to loose contact if center of mass is lower).
The shock was send to a service provider who rebuild it and did the shortening.
Bye
Martin
Martin
Re: Project Husaberg FE 650 !!!
Thanks JonJonW wrote:Wonderful pickup Petros, really great plan!
Re: Project Husaberg FE 650 !!!
Thanks MartinMK wrote:Concerning the brake caliper people often have that problem and I've seen quite a lot being milled on the back side.
What you can do if the fork is wide enough is to use a spacer on the disc&caliper to get more clearance to the spokes.
The other possibility is special SuperMoto calipers like Spiegler offers. The downside on these: They cost a fortune and often have a limited choice for pad types.
"Shortening" a moto cross fork for SuperMoto purpose is quite easy. If you disassemble the internals, they contain a few bushes that can be changed (longer or shorter) to give you a different static position. Note that you need to shorten the spring bush for the same amount.
I did that on my KTM 360 SX (5 cm lower) to enhance laptimes (you can brake harder before rear starts to loose contact if center of mass is lower).
The shock was send to a service provider who rebuild it and did the shortening.
Great advise there , I considered to get the caliber milled too , as to spacers no space there , very very tight.
Then I started to obtain quotes for SM Beringer brake set up ,
man those go for redicilous money they sell as new , I've been quoted 1800 euro and that is for the rotor , caliber , brake pump only.
Then I considered the cost involved as I needed to buy , FCR Keihin carb , Acrapovic titanium exhaust , throttle with cables to fit FCR ,
so instead I bought a complete bike with all these parts available ready for swap for much much much less and I will end up with two bikes
as the enduro parts off the 650 would just sit in my storage parts just incase I would decide to get the bike swapped for dirt again which I doubt due to power.
Also the front off the 400SM is for supermoto with special triples to go in the combination and beringer set is there too.
Target for my 650 is a race competition bike with complete SM set up , no lights only number plate.
Last edited by petros67 on Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Project Husaberg FE 650 !!!
Quite a few guys have spaced their front wheels offset to get the brake disk moved away from the spokes, I did some milling and also a lot of work on my bracket to make my caliper work, but I also added a 5mm spacer to the disk, spoked wheels and 4 pot calipers are a pain, but worth it when you feel that brake working :)
Anyway, the full front end of the 400 will be perfect on the 650. The 650 will be a great SM and will be a little more manageable on the SM track than pure off road im betting. Excited to hear what you think when youve ridden it Petros, also, can you put it on the road? It would make a great town bike...
Anyway, the full front end of the 400 will be perfect on the 650. The 650 will be a great SM and will be a little more manageable on the SM track than pure off road im betting. Excited to hear what you think when youve ridden it Petros, also, can you put it on the road? It would make a great town bike...
80 XT500 Supermoto!
81 RD350LC Resto
82 RD421LC Hybrid
82 RD350LC decapitation project
82 RD250LC JDM '251LC' YPVS
83 RZ350 Resto
84 RZ500 Resto
85 RZ350 F1 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Hybrid
Like Watches? www.PloProf.com & www.DeskDivers.com
81 RD350LC Resto
82 RD421LC Hybrid
82 RD350LC decapitation project
82 RD250LC JDM '251LC' YPVS
83 RZ350 Resto
84 RZ500 Resto
85 RZ350 F1 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Hybrid
Like Watches? www.PloProf.com & www.DeskDivers.com
Re: Project Husaberg FE 650 !!!
Yes Jon you got my point , easy swap now andJonW wrote:
Anyway, the full front end of the 400 will be perfect on the 650. The 650 will be a great SM and will be a little more manageable on the SM track than pure off road im betting. Excited to hear what you think when youve ridden it Petros, also, can you put it on the road? It would make a great town bike...
I believe that after I replace the stock Delorto carb & stock silencer exhaust off the 650
and install the FCR 42 & Acrapovic silencer the bike will increase power , now I'm after
titanium valve springs & valves to try to make the engine bullet proof.
Yes both bikes 650 & 400 are registered and number plated and can be put on the road.
Mainly I want to do some Sumo track sessions with the 650 which I've never experienced before.
Some nice full throttle vids to follow soon
Re: Project Husaberg FE 650 !!!
heehee, of course, wouldnt expect anything less. :)
80 XT500 Supermoto!
81 RD350LC Resto
82 RD421LC Hybrid
82 RD350LC decapitation project
82 RD250LC JDM '251LC' YPVS
83 RZ350 Resto
84 RZ500 Resto
85 RZ350 F1 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Hybrid
Like Watches? www.PloProf.com & www.DeskDivers.com
81 RD350LC Resto
82 RD421LC Hybrid
82 RD350LC decapitation project
82 RD250LC JDM '251LC' YPVS
83 RZ350 Resto
84 RZ500 Resto
85 RZ350 F1 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Hybrid
Like Watches? www.PloProf.com & www.DeskDivers.com
Re: Project Husaberg FE 650 !!!
Last edited by petros67 on Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Project Husaberg FE 650 !!!
Powder that frame silver... and make a KTM LOL. Good progress Petros, ive done nothing here... im painting my garage floor :/
80 XT500 Supermoto!
81 RD350LC Resto
82 RD421LC Hybrid
82 RD350LC decapitation project
82 RD250LC JDM '251LC' YPVS
83 RZ350 Resto
84 RZ500 Resto
85 RZ350 F1 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Hybrid
Like Watches? www.PloProf.com & www.DeskDivers.com
81 RD350LC Resto
82 RD421LC Hybrid
82 RD350LC decapitation project
82 RD250LC JDM '251LC' YPVS
83 RZ350 Resto
84 RZ500 Resto
85 RZ350 F1 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Hybrid
Like Watches? www.PloProf.com & www.DeskDivers.com
Re: Project Husaberg FE 650 !!!
The KFX 4strokes have a too slim swinger for SuperMoto, so I had one on my welding table to widen it some 10 mm. Told the guy it'd be at own risk and he ought to carefully use it.
The bike is ridden off road, the weld is still in place and the rider is still alive and healthy.
So if its too narrow you can consider cutting and re-welding it ....
The bike is ridden off road, the weld is still in place and the rider is still alive and healthy.
So if its too narrow you can consider cutting and re-welding it ....
Bye
Martin
Martin
- two-stroke-brit
- -----
- Posts: 1701
- Joined: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:49 pm
- Location: Houston texas
Re: Project Husaberg FE 650 !!!
Only 10mm wider, is that even noticeable ?
350LC,Athena 392 big bore,stock porting,swiss cheese air box,stock reeds,spec11 pipes.(now TSA big bore pipes)
She might not be pretty but she will always be a fun ride
1982 YAMA RD350LC
98KDX 220R
1967 TRIUMPH TIGER
2001 TRIUMPH TT600
She might not be pretty but she will always be a fun ride
1982 YAMA RD350LC
98KDX 220R
1967 TRIUMPH TIGER
2001 TRIUMPH TT600
Re: Project Husaberg FE 650 !!!
thats why quite a few of the older KTMs run the 4.25" rim, and thats the one that i managed to slide into my XT500. 5inch would be amazing if you can line the chain run up Petros, fingers crossed for you.
80 XT500 Supermoto!
81 RD350LC Resto
82 RD421LC Hybrid
82 RD350LC decapitation project
82 RD250LC JDM '251LC' YPVS
83 RZ350 Resto
84 RZ500 Resto
85 RZ350 F1 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Hybrid
Like Watches? www.PloProf.com & www.DeskDivers.com
81 RD350LC Resto
82 RD421LC Hybrid
82 RD350LC decapitation project
82 RD250LC JDM '251LC' YPVS
83 RZ350 Resto
84 RZ500 Resto
85 RZ350 F1 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Hybrid
Like Watches? www.PloProf.com & www.DeskDivers.com
Re: Project Husaberg FE 650 !!!
Yeah my KTM 360 had a 4.25x17 but the 160 slick contour was deformed by that slim rim and the behavior on the very edge of the available friction was "instable" to say the least.
I later changed to a 5x17 which was much better!
Disclaimer: You'll only notice this in hard race use on the very last 0.5 s of your laptime.
So for going slower or for street use forget everything said above...
I later changed to a 5x17 which was much better!
Disclaimer: You'll only notice this in hard race use on the very last 0.5 s of your laptime.
So for going slower or for street use forget everything said above...
Bye
Martin
Martin
Re: Project Husaberg FE 650 !!!
Agreed, and for me its a street bike... with a 150 road tyre :)
80 XT500 Supermoto!
81 RD350LC Resto
82 RD421LC Hybrid
82 RD350LC decapitation project
82 RD250LC JDM '251LC' YPVS
83 RZ350 Resto
84 RZ500 Resto
85 RZ350 F1 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Hybrid
Like Watches? www.PloProf.com & www.DeskDivers.com
81 RD350LC Resto
82 RD421LC Hybrid
82 RD350LC decapitation project
82 RD250LC JDM '251LC' YPVS
83 RZ350 Resto
84 RZ500 Resto
85 RZ350 F1 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Resto
86 RZ350 F2 Hybrid
Like Watches? www.PloProf.com & www.DeskDivers.com