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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:12 pm 
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Ride a long commentary to Box Hill Sussex. Interesting to see riding on the left side for a change.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pxYlPtZeCM
Our rider/guide then switched to a RZ on the way out. Some differences - loved both bikes. Would have been interested in a comparison regarding the power band rush. Understand the RD is a bit more of a jolt. Good day for a ride in old Blighty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHUoYM0Hkrc&t=8s


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Agree it would have been nice if he talked about the differences, I think it was more just enjoying the ride. Looked like a nice day out.

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I have both an LC and an F2 RZ.

While they are in lots of ways similar, they are also very different. The LC is more work to ride fast. The motor doesn't make as much power but the power band is more sudden. With only 45 HP its not like the thing rips your arms off but you def feel the bike come on the pipe hard. Handling and brakes are nowhere near as good as the RZ. The LC always feels a bit like it has a rubber hinge in the middle and tends to wallow around a bit in fast corners. Seating position wise, the LC is an upright street bike that is not at all designed for a racers tuck.

The RZ is way easier to go fast on. It just takes less effort. It also feels more like a race bike than the LC. I like the LC power band rush so I adjust the power valves to open early. However I did test ride a bike a few years ago that had virtually no power band rush. The power curve was flat like a 4-stroke. Personally I thought that was dull. At speed the RZ steers and handles better and is easier to tuck behind the bars. The rubber hinge feeling is gone which makes high speed corners a lot less stressful.

I started on an LC and so thats where my heart lies. However it is impossible to deny the RZ is a better bike. Thankfully prices these days means we don't have to choose between the two. :)

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Appreciate your insight on the preformance value. There is also the aesthetic. Just learnt about Yamaha's philosopy of
分譲マンション or "Condo". I think the RD has it over the RZ - hence the attraction. Others will differ no doubt. It is explained in this Discovery Channel episode of "Twist of the Throttle". Link:

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... x4aVfbORHw

The series also covers off Kawi/Suzuki/Honda's beginings also. Interesting how they all approached motorcycling manufacturing. I get the "Condo" styling points as the other manufactures appear to copy Yamaha's dynamic design flow since the intro of the R1. It amazes me that the RD's Condo curvature (and noise) still attracts attention. Epic - as noted in the Yammer-Howling thread 'Public Reaction riding the 2 strokes?' antidotally states.

The Suzuki/Kawi stories tie for 1st place regarding pts of interest; Yamie/Honda close 2nd. Interesting how these 4 came out of the hundreds of Japanese motorized bike manufactures following WW2 to end up on top.


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