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 Post subject: zeeltronic
PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:46 am 
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when using a zeeltronic on my 500 build do i still have to use a rectifier/regulator lads ? i also remember someone mentioning a name a bloke that will help out greatly when wiring a zeel , burron or something like that was his name would anyone have it ? cheers ps

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:31 pm 
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The purpose of the rectifier/regulator is not for ignition.
Ignition box has always a rectifier/regulator built-in.
It is for battery charging and power supply of the main harness.
So : No, you don't need it (for Zeeltronic) and yes you need it ...


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im using a zeel so i dont need the separate rec/reg is this correct ? ta

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Rec/reg is not for ignition but for battery charging and general power supply.
So, unless you remove ALL ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS ( including powervalves servomotor ... ) YOU ALWAYS NEED a rectifier/regulator.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:21 pm 
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where is the best place to buy one phil ? ta

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The stock reg/rec works well and is fairly reliable. Stay with that if possible.

The rectifier turns the AC voltage from the generator (stator-rotor) to DC voltage. Then it's typically regulated to near 14.5V DC for the charging circuit with operating voltage around 12V DC.

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If you don't have an original regulator/rectifier, you can use any model providing that it is a 3 poles input with a max amperage higher than the alternator max output ( 16A ).
As John said, 12V regulators nominal output is always between 14,3V and 15,3V.
Original RZ/RD regulator has a max amperage of 25A.


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I may have one here if you can't find one closer.

Many Yamahas of that period used the same one.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:26 pm 
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would this do the job ?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Regulator-Rec ... 1438.l2649

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The word "budget" in that description doesn't inspire confidence. If it starts pushing out 20 volts you'll burn up every electrical component down stream of the regulator-rectifier.

If you want to buy a new reproduction part this one from Yambits might be the safest bet. I would assume that many have been sold and the fact they are still selling them would indicate reliability. https://yambits.co.uk/rz500-regulator-r ... rud3hghi01

If you want a genuine Yamaha part, the 1986-90 RD350 YPVS uses the same reg-rec, as does the TZR250. FZ600 and more.

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would anyone have any pics of wiring up the zeel to the standard loom by any chance ?

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 Post subject: Re: zeeltronic
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:45 pm 
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Hi Paul , the zeeltronic just replaces the
Standard control boxes , you have to swap
The plugs over so no need to mess with
The loom !!
Have you purchased one already ??


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This guy has the plugs https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Yamaha-RD500-RZ ... Sw-xVZ9KA5

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