47X AND 1GE WHAT THINGS ARE DIFFERENT ?

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#16 Post by Andrew » Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:03 pm

Andrew wrote:My RZ is a 51X and must have been produced the same time as other model RD500's.
What years did different 500 models run?? Yamaha have told me mine is a '83 bike, but I've also heard Japan only made the RZV's in '84????
jackson.40 wrote:Hi Andrew,I am sure that production started in march 1984.
Steve, I agree, but when I applied for an age related plate for my 500 when I came to the UK, the DVLA told me I had to go to my local Yamaha dealer and get a proof letter from Yamaha with my chasis and engin numbers and they would give me the year of manufactuer.
After giving this information to Yamaha Bedworth... AND £50... they gave me a letter a few days later to give to the DVLA so I could get my 'A' plate.
It says my RZV was made in 1983?????
I told the guys at Yamaha that I was always under the impression the RZV was only produced for one year...1984.
No one at Bedworth Yamaha knew that much about the RD/RZ/RZV history and just said that was the information they received from Japan.

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Re: 47X AND 1GE WHAT THINGS ARE DIFFERENT ?

#17 Post by oldguy » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:36 am

jackson.40 wrote:I keep coming across different parts between the two models so i just wanted to start a post where everyone could list any they have come across.Here is a photo of a new 1GE clip on (top)and new 47x clip on (bottom).

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I'm a little confused now.
Mine is a 1GE S/N and my clip-ons and parts list match the 47X ones. (47X-26122-00-98) RH

Am I missing something here?????

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#18 Post by oldguy » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:50 am

that is P/N 47X-26122-00-98 RH

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#19 Post by jackson.40 » Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:18 pm

Hi Oldguy,The 1ge bikes were fitted from the factory with the 47x clip on like you have.I think what happen is when they ran out of the spare 47x clip ons they made a new batch which were different and had the 1ge part number.If the clip on you order has the 1ge part number it will not match your 47x one.Hope this helps,Cheers Steve

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#20 Post by jackson.40 » Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:41 pm

Just noticed something i have not seen before.Check out the rear fuel tank bracket on Oldguy`s 1GE.

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#21 Post by oldguy » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:43 am

jackson.40 wrote:Just noticed something i have not seen before.Check out the rear fuel tank bracket on Oldguy`s 1GE.

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Good observation Steve!

I've noticed my shifter rubber is red & black.
I don't see it on the other models/clolors.

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#22 Post by danahi » Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:00 pm

jackson.40 wrote:Hi Bill,The 47x and 1ge both have the twin tank system but the 1ge main tank is green and transparent and the 47x is black.I think the coolant tank is green as well with the 47x tank being black.

Here is a good photo of the short 47x upper pipe baffle and the longer 1ge baffle.

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I see you talk about the upper pipe baffle. I'm quite sure the original baffles are still on my RD500. It is a 1GE model from '87 but has the short baffles...

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#23 Post by jackson.40 » Mon May 18, 2009 5:28 pm

47X NEW BAFFLES

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1GE NEW BAFFLES

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#24 Post by baabaa » Mon May 18, 2009 10:09 pm

Those 1GE's look like the chinese copys flooding the NOS market??? :razz:

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#25 Post by jackson.40 » Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:27 pm

The 1GE spec bikes didn`t have the rubber dampers fitted on the exhaust protector and had rubber foam strips on the bottom of the fuel tank instead.

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#26 Post by 1601pete » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:17 pm

Am I right in saying the 47x models had rear mounting brackets for the bellypan that must of bolted onto the underside of the frame? Where as 1GE models they were removed? Why?

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#27 Post by jackson.40 » Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:46 am

Hi Pete,

The 1GE model never had the rear bellypan brackets fitted.Not sure why they thought it didn`t need them.

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#28 Post by RDunkin » Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:54 am

Hello all, all three of mine are from the second batch of 1400 bikes RZ500RN (1GF PRODUCTION CODE)Frame number 52x004101/005500 fitted with 1ge type parts (Thanks Steve!).
One has the longer upper silencers & large turn signals, two have short silencers & smaller turn signals. All three have the black oil & coolant tanks.


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#29 Post by Bengt Weil » Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:21 pm

Unless you are the original owner or know of the complete history from every owner your bike has ever had, chances are that if things appear different from what is documented as original, it most likely isn't original. A lot can be modified, changed, etc. on a 25+ year old performance bike with 2 or more owners over the years.

Thanks to all the people on this forum who have pretty well deciphered and documented what minor production changes Yamaha had made to the different market models over the production run, albeit too short...

It's no wonder that a truly ORIGINAL bike can be or is so valuable - could you imagine having one of each model (51X, 47X, 1GE, etc.) in absolute original condition? I believe I have seen a few people on this forum pour their heart and souls (not to mention their bank accounts) into reproducing a very original restoration, either back when parts were fairly available, had very complete bikes to start with or are genius at sourcing parts around the world...

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#30 Post by jackson.40 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:53 am

The 47x fork tubes reduces from 37mm to 36mm dia at 60mm from the end, the 1GE fork tubes do the same reduction in diameter 200mm from the end.

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