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#1 Post by geosot » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:49 am

I am rebuilding a RD500 engine left in a basement for ages without the clutch cover.

Engine is in a good condition, but the clutch disks, both steel and fiber, need replacement.

Any suggestions? Any aftermarket clutch discs available (Barnett)? Any feedback?

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#2 Post by rztom » Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:11 pm

George - Barnett makes a kit that'll fit the RD - I'll see if I can find the part #s for you....

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#3 Post by H2RTuner » Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:08 pm

Unless Barnett has changed their friction materials in the last year or so, those may not be the ones to use.

Most Barnett frictions are made with a compound that leaches oils into them, and then, exdpanding from the oil. When this occurs, the clutch lever will be pulled all the way to the bar, in gear, the bike will begin to creep forward, more and more as the plates bulge. You won't be able to get the trans into neutral as well, when this occurs.

We need to do a check to see if there is another plate that will interchange from something else, Yamaha or other. Even possibly, add a pair of plates, etc.

In the mid-1970'2. Hurley Wilvert and I raced a TZ700/750 in AFM, AMA and overseas competition. Clutch friction plates for them were priced at $11.60 EACH (8), way too expensive. We went on a search mission, found that the steels and frictions for a Yamaha XS650 were the same outer and inner splines, but were thinner, just enough to add one more steel, one more friction. And, the steels were $0.90 each, frictions were $1.98. Bonus deal, add an extra plate set, lower price. We ended up machining the hub and pressure plate and got yet another pair of the 650 plates into those clutches. Although the TZ was a dry clutch, and the XS650 was a wet clutch, the frictions and steels didn't show adversity from the change of atmosphere.

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#4 Post by gus » Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:19 pm

I thought the 750 triples were the same I know I used an original yamaha from the states and I thought that was it. I'm gonna check with my knowledge guy.......

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#5 Post by rzatch » Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:08 pm

The plates from the XS650 and R1 are the same. Take a look back in the Archives it has been discussed many times.

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#6 Post by H2RTuner » Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:39 pm

Man, that's incredible, the lowly XS650 has a clutch setup that many other Yamahas can use the parts from. Not bad at all.

I'd bet that the XS plates are a lot less cost than the RD/RZ 500 ones are.

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#7 Post by geosot » Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:05 pm

Any news for the Barnett part number?


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#8 Post by Jordi YZR500 » Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:39 pm

rzatch wrote:The plates from the XS650 and R1 are the same. Take a look back in the Archives it has been discussed many times.

R1 plates would fit RD/RZ 500 clutch? Which year R1? The whole clutch or basket would fit the R5? Anybody knows something similar about the gears?
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#9 Post by rzatch » Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:12 pm

1998-2003 YZF1000R1 Barnett YPK-5(7)

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#10 Post by rzatch » Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:13 pm

1975-79 XS650 TWIN YPK-5

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#11 Post by rztom » Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:33 pm

Here's the part #s from Barnett's website for their listing for the RZ500:

Friction Plates: YPK-5(7)
Tempered Steel Metal Plates: YP-20-15(6)
Spring Kits: MT-45-6

As Atch mentioned, you can see the listing for the friction plates is the same as for the R1...

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